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George Faller [00:01:36]:
Let’s help people talk about it. Welcome to Foreplay sex therapy. I’m doctor Laurie Watson, your sex therapist.

George Faller [00:01:46]:
And I’m George Faller, your couples therapist.

Laurie Watson [00:01:49]:
We are here to talk about sex.

George Faller [00:01:51]:
Our mission is to help couples talk about sex in ways that incorporate their body, their mind and their hearts.

Laurie Watson [00:01:59]:
And we have a little bit of fun doing it, right, g, listen, and.

George Faller [00:02:02]:
Let’S change some relationships.

Laurie Watson [00:02:04]:
Last week we kind of talked about in the school of love, you know, how to do a general assessment and check in. And now we want to help you break it down. We have an acronym, best sex talk, that really gives you kind of some specifics about what’s going on with y’all. And George, can you just go through the acronym so that we know what the words are, just to begin? And then we’ll buzz through them so people have an idea of, you know, all the different things they can talk.

George Faller [00:02:31]:
About as sex talk. B is just talking about your body. E is your emotions, your heart. S is your spirit. T is your thinking, your brain. The s is for the sexual cycle. The e is for exploring the past sexual history. The x is external factors bringing in things outside.

George Faller [00:02:58]:
Just the two of you. Into the bedroom. The t is specifically talking. How important is that for you? The a is the amount of orgasms in your relationship. The l is for laughter and the k is for kissing. So there it is, the best sex talk. Why we came up with this, Laurie and I, is because most couples don’t know what to talk about. Even when they want to talk.

George Faller [00:03:22]:
They just don’t know how to what. What it is they’re supposed to talk about. This throws everything in the kitchen sink. Right? It just puts. It’s just a sounding board for people to start having conversations. And I bet all of you listening that if you do this best sex talk with your partner, you will definitely find something new about yourself and your partner. We’ve done this thousands of times with thousands of couples, and every time somebody finds something new to talk about that they haven’t talked about before. Isn’t that exciting, Laurie?

Laurie Watson [00:03:53]:
That is exciting. Although, don’t you think, you know, when you’ve been married for 35 years, it’s like, gosh, is there anything new to talk about?

George Faller [00:04:04]:
Yes, there’s a lot to talk about.

Laurie Watson [00:04:06]:
Yes, there is probably more after that period of time. Okay, so start us off the b for the body.

George Faller [00:04:14]:
Well, let’s. Let’s just get a framework. What we ask our couples to do is just to give a snapshot. We talk about gas pedals and brakes. Right. We want you to think about as we talk about each category, a gas pedal, is this something that’s super important to you, to turning you on, or is this, you know, a break? Is this something that really can turn you off? For a lot of people, one partner’s gas pedal is the other person’s brake. So there’s no right or wrong. We’re just gathering information.

George Faller [00:04:42]:
So we might ask a couple of scores on a one to ten. Or we might ask them just say high, medium, or low. There’s no. Just get a snapshot of each category. So we’re looking for two scores in each category. A gas pedal in brake. How important is your body? We’re going to start off with as a gas pedal in a break. And then again, both partners will compare these scores with each other.

George Faller [00:05:02]:
What are we really highlighting if you’re talking to each other? If you got low gas pedals, that’s an area you can improve. If you got high breaks, that’s an area of proof. So that’s really what I’m looking for. What things pop out at you doing this assessment that allow both of you to start kind of targeting areas where you can do some. Some targeted improvement.

Laurie Watson [00:05:23]:
Okay.

George Faller [00:05:24]:
All right.

Laurie Watson [00:05:24]:
Okay, so lead us off. Be for body.

George Faller [00:05:29]:
Yeah. Well, how important is your body towards turning you on? You know, just all your senses touch you like massage, you know, you can feel your desire in your body. You can feel, you know, you like movement. You like different positions. You like oral sex, you like. I mean, just your body, like, being physical is a huge part towards turning you on. For some people, that can be a number one turn on. For a lot of people, they’re so in their head and elsewhere that they’re kind of disconnected from their body.

George Faller [00:06:00]:
It’s less relevant. They don’t need that. Maybe they just focus it on their penis and don’t even think about the rest of their body. So again, how important is that for a gas pedal? The flip side of that is a lot of times these can be big breaks. Do you not like your body? Do you feel fat? Are you losing your hair? Is sex painful? That could be really bad. Are you afraid about getting pregnant? You having side effects from medication? I mean, a lot of things that could happen physiologically that just stop us from wanting to have sex.

Laurie Watson [00:06:30]:
Yeah. Okay. So we really want people to see, is it a positive gas pedal? Are they engaged with their body, with their senses, or is it a break because, you know, they’re having problems with their body? You know, maybe they don’t like their body. Maybe they don’t really engage their body. They don’t have a lot of ease with arousal and things like that. And so it’s a problem or there’s pain. So is there a break? And we just want to mention Emily Nagowski here. She often says that desire is more about taking the breaks off.

Laurie Watson [00:07:02]:
So we want to take the breaks off if there are. And we can probably solve and work on all of those breaks to kind of have you have a better experience.

George Faller [00:07:12]:
Yeah. And it’s quite common for people to have high breaks and high gas pedals are the same thing. I need my body to be turned on, but I don’t like the way I look because I’m overweight. So, you know, they get. They get stuck with both of these things. So moving on emotions is really just making some space for the heart. How important is romance? You know, is that sharing of feelings, of wanting to feel safe, of wanting to be known, of wanting to be interested in and seen and wanting conversations and all that stuff that’s super important to that connection and that emotional bond. If you need that, that’s going to be a high gas pedal.

George Faller [00:07:50]:
Some people like I don’t need that. I’m just turned on, ready to go. I don’t need the romance as much. There’s no right or wrong. We’re just trying to explore areas. The flipside breaks here, huge. These were all the fears. I mean, if you’re afraid of being rejected or you’re afraid it’s not going to work, you’re going to fail, you’re going to let your partner down.

George Faller [00:08:08]:
All those anxieties can really stop us from accessing our desires.

Laurie Watson [00:08:14]:
Okay, so I just want to do a quick little demo. So e my heart, this is a big gas pedal. I love romance. I love, like, all the time. And build up to sex, you know, that’s really exciting. But it’s also a big break, you know, because I feel really, really anxious that my partner is not going to be happy with me and I’m not going to do it right. I’m not going to perform well enough. And so actually, it’s a big gas pedal and a big break for me.

George Faller [00:08:43]:
Yeah, very common, very common.

Laurie Watson [00:08:46]:
Very common.

George Faller [00:08:46]:
All right. Yes. Try to make some space for spirituality, because we know the research behind great lovers. They talk about a sense of transcendence, of being part of something bigger than himself. So is that a gas pedal? Do you feel gratitude and joy? Do you feel this sense of merger, being part of something bigger? You know, does it make you feel like tantra sex? Like this, this. This sense of expansion that could be super important to you, other people? It’s not that relevant. The flip side, with the spirit, we can see a lot of breaks. People have hang ups.

George Faller [00:09:17]:
You know, some of the messages that sex is dirty, it’s sinful, it’s bad, it’s loaded with guilt. It’s these negative messages around sex that could really kind of cause a lot of inhibitions and not make us want to kind of show up sexually.

Laurie Watson [00:09:32]:
Duty sex, to me, is the opposite of that place that you just described. Feeling like you’re a part of something that’s big, that’s huge, universal, maybe even a part of God. Like, if you’re having it just because you have to, because it’s your obligation, that’s a spirit killer.

George Faller [00:09:49]:
Listen, if God is love, which a lot of people believe, then God’s going to be involved in the act of love making in action. So it’s why it’s important, I think, to have this category. All right, thoughts? Moving on. Next one, really making space for your brain. How important is that erotic brain towards getting you turned on, that you need memories and you need to anticipate and visualize scenes, and you want to think about fantasies and creativity. I mean, just bringing that brain erotically online is like. It’s how you get going. It’s the main, primary door towards the gas pedal.

Laurie Watson [00:10:26]:
Yeah. And I really think for women, this is so important, right? She’s got to engage her brain. She has to be involved erotically in her mind to even have her body turn on.

George Faller [00:10:37]:
Well, there you go, man. That was a free tip from doctor Laurie. Flip side is you’re going to get big breaks here, right? If you’re thinking about the kids and the laundry lists and you’re thinking about your brain is just preoccupied and distracted. It’s not able to focus on sex. You can see how you can’t access your erotic brain. It’s going to show itself as a break.

Laurie Watson [00:10:59]:
Yeah, sometimes their thoughts are kind of toxic. They’re distracted. You know, I think for women, it’s all about the list. You know, one of the big blocks, I think, for women is that they’re thinking about the things they got to get done rather than just being in the moment and experiencing pleasure. So put the list down.

George Faller [00:11:18]:
Hard to do, but it’s super important.

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George Faller [00:12:22]:
Sexual cycle we talk a lot about the emotional cycle, the sexual cycle. You know, sometimes sexual cycles are gas pedals because they’re, you know, you’re in a flow with each other. You appreciate. The pursuer feels appreciated that they initiate that. They’re, you know, fighting for the relationship. The withdrawers appreciate because they’re receptive. And even if they’re not super in the mood, they always show up. They kind of get themselves going.

George Faller [00:12:46]:
Right, because that cycle is safe and positive. You see the signs of a positive cycle. There’s curiosity, there’s security, there’s openness, there’s engagement, there’s empathy, there’s vulnerability. Those are the signs. There’s balance. In a positive sexual cycle, you see that appreciation, that confidence that we want to celebrate when we see it. The flip side is you’re going to get some of the worst breaks showing up here in the negative cycle, when you’re doing your best to kind of pursue for sex and you’re constantly rejected, it’s hard to not get critical. It’s hard to not get that yellow brain into kind of hopeless, helpless places.

George Faller [00:13:27]:
Or if you’re the withdrawal and you’re trying to respond, you don’t have a lot of drive, and all you get is criticized for it, and those criticizes mount. You get more and more pressure. Like, this negative cycle takes over relationships. A lot of times it’s this break that’s killing so many love lives.

Laurie Watson [00:13:43]:
Yep. And we have thousands of episodes on this, on the sexual cycle, so especially 343 is a good one to listen to.

George Faller [00:13:52]:
Nice. Laurie’s brain holds on to that. It’s impressive. All right, moving on. The e, exploring your history, right? Your family of origin, your culture, previous lovers. It informs why we like what we like. I mean, so is your history healthy? Do you have great role models of healthy love and great sex? Do you have past relationships that have really worked well for you sexually, that things have turned on that really inform who you are today? What was your first encounter? Was that beautiful? Was it something super special that your body wants to kind of repeat that rinse and repeat? Like, when it’s good, we want to go back to what works. Right? So sometimes this is gas pedals.

George Faller [00:14:35]:
And not surprisingly, we show up some huge breaks in this area. You know, when we’ve had trauma. We grew up in families where there’s abuse or no healthy models of sex or emotions. This is, you know, our parents were.

Laurie Watson [00:14:50]:
Cold and to each other. And. Yeah, yeah.

George Faller [00:14:54]:
I mean, you get. You get indifference in your family or failure to talk about it or, you know, you’ve had infidelity and people leave you and dump you and hurt you. I mean, all these histories inform, you know, they make fun of you. They tell you you’re wrong, you’re broken. Like, how does this stuff not come into the present moment with our partner? And a lot of times we never want to talk about our history because we don’t want to upset anybody or relive these things. But then they’re just always lurking in the background.

Laurie Watson [00:15:20]:
Right, exactly. So that’s. That’s a big one. And just for the record, you know, we’re going fast today, but if you join us on Instagram, which is foreplay sex therapypodcast, you can look in our link tree, and we will have a download on this so you will be able to get this sheet to kind of guide you in this talk, so don’t feel like you have to scribble this all down. We have a worksheet for you. Just go to our Instagram foreplay sex therapy podcast.

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Awesome. All right, let’s come back and finish the rest of this.

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George Faller [00:20:28]:
All right, Laurie, the x for external, some big gas pedals here for a lot of people, bringing in something outside, just your relationship, right? Again, this is all up to people’s consistent with their moral code. For some people, this is not something they want. It’s not a gas people for other people, you know? So what are we talking about? Like, bringing in what we hear, vibrators, what people tell us. So they want to take a gummy or have a drink to loosen things up, or, you know, they want to throw on a tape, some kind of pornography to kind of get them excited, you know, this idea of domination or kinks or. Some people talk about opening up their relationships, having other partners, right? This is just their ideas of novelty, of things that will spice up and kind of excite, you know, those hit those gas pedals to turn them on more.

Laurie Watson [00:21:19]:
Right. And, you know, we hear this from our clients all the time. Lots of different ideas about how they want to bring excitement to their sex life, what turns them on. And ironically, sometimes, most of the time, the people that land in our office are people who have differences about this. Maybe there are breaks here, huge breaks here. I think my partner uses porn to the exclusion of really thinking about me, or my partner wants to have a threesome, and that would just break monogamy for me. So there’s a lot of breaks in terms of and differences between partners here. We’re just saying, actually, you got to talk about this.

Laurie Watson [00:21:59]:
And we know that’s hard. And you might want to talk about things that are conflictual in the company of a therapist. So you get through to each other, and maybe you find out that these are things that you can talk about, not do, and it still is satisfying. But even I’ve had people, George, who say vibrators like that. That’s really weird. No, that wouldn’t feel natural. You know, there’s lots of people who have breaks here about all of this kind of stuff, even lubrication. You know, it’s like, no, I.

Laurie Watson [00:22:29]:
I want it to be just my body, you know, so.

George Faller [00:22:32]:
So it’s likely to run into a gas pedal and a break. And that’s just why couples fail in communication, because they don’t know how to build a bridge between the two. So, yes, if one partner needs a drink to loosen up and the other just smells the alcohol. And it’s such a turn off because it means their partner’s not present and they’re not really engaging with them. I mean, no wonder why it’s. It’s such a miss here. And then couples have no way of communicating that with each other. So this is.

George Faller [00:23:00]:
Yeah, we want you to. If you recognize one person as a gas pedal, one person has a break. Great. That’s an area that needs some attention. That’s all. It’s all the information stolen us.

Laurie Watson [00:23:09]:
Yep. Okay, what’s next?

George Faller [00:23:11]:
All right, the next is talking. How important is talking for you as a gas pedal? Like, you like talking about sex before sex, during sex, after sex? I mean, there’s something about. Yes, yes, keep it score and giving it grades. Like, you like shouting, you like sexy words, you like. I mean, it’s just the. Just the expression, even with words and nonverbal, like you’re communicating, that’s just what turns you on in the bedroom.

Laurie Watson [00:23:40]:
Yes, yes, yes. Before, during, and after.

George Faller [00:23:43]:
There you go.

Laurie Watson [00:23:43]:
Yes.

George Faller [00:23:44]:
Right? And usually, yes, yes, yes is partnered with somebody else who doesn’t need to talk about it. Right. It actually becomes a turn off. Why can’t we just enjoy it and lay here? Why do we have to, like, debrief and go into what works and what doesn’t work? And, you know, maybe I was raised not really having to make sounds. I always had to be quiet so I’m comfortable not making sounds. I don’t need to scream and shout. That doesn’t mean I’m not into it. It’s just.

George Faller [00:24:08]:
It’s not as important to me, or I don’t like the way my voice sounds. It can be a break. I mean, you can see we get that same play between the gas pedal and brachy.

Laurie Watson [00:24:18]:
I love the empty nest. That’s all I can say. So, you know, I think that. Right, for people especially, I think the sexual withdrawal, that talking about it, that debrief the next morning when their body is really not engaged anymore and desire is lower and they’re not aroused, it just feels like an interruption. You know, it feels invasive. And so that’s a total break for them. So talking, for some people, it’s a continuation of their sexual connection. And for other people, it’s like, whoa, you are just overwhelming me, always wanting to talk about it.

George Faller [00:24:53]:
Nice, nice. All right, amount. We added this one. This might sound weird, but we really want to specifically force couples to talk about their orgasms. The quality and how often, because it’s amazing how many partners never talk about it. They just assume. They hope they’re partners, but they’re not really clear. And you know what? Orgasms are the reward system.

George Faller [00:25:14]:
It’s not the only goal, but they’re important, you know? So if you’re not having orgasms, we want to know that. But as a gas pedal, like, do you have orgasms? Most of the time? Are they enjoyable? Are they dependable? Are they, you know, what are they like? In one of the episodes, we described our orgasms, I mean, it’s pretty amazing. It is. You can feel the power of an orgasm to reinforce, you know, victory and positive affect in this couple’s bond. I mean, it’s fantastic for strengthening, you know?

Laurie Watson [00:25:44]:
I think we need to do that episode again now that we know each other a little bit better, because I don’t think you described it as much as I described it. Okay. Yeah.

George Faller [00:25:54]:
More. Less communicative around my orgasms than you. Right?

Laurie Watson [00:25:59]:
Yeah. Yeah. So that’s your challenge.

George Faller [00:26:03]:
There wasn’t a lot of room to make noises. So, you know, you. It’s, it forms your sexual band. So I’m looking forward to the empty nest and finding my true voice during sex. It’s gonna become a guest.

Laurie Watson [00:26:19]:
Yes.

George Faller [00:26:21]:
This could be the flip side of it. If you’re not having orgasms or there’s, you know, you’re feeling dissatisfied with the orgasm or your partner’s orgasm or, you know, there’s pain. Like, these are the areas problems, Ed.

Laurie Watson [00:26:37]:
Or you have premature ejaculation or you can’t reach orgasm. Or. Let me just add one thing, and this is a little caveat. Sometimes women feel pressured to have orgasm, which we know what pressure does to orgasm. It kills it. And they don’t necessarily every single time want an orgasm, George. They just like sometimes want to do it, you know? So we got to make room and spread space for that. For the women who say, look, I feel connected without orgasm and stop pressuring me.

Laurie Watson [00:27:06]:
So, I mean, it can go that way too.

George Faller [00:27:08]:
It’s a beautiful way. God has made women’s body. It’s hard for a lot of men to relate to that. Like, you’d actually want to have sex and not have an orgasm. But, you know, when, when you’re getting a lot of other needs met, you feel the connection. You feel, you know, the intimacy. Like there. Even without an orgasm, that’s still a victory for a couple like that.

George Faller [00:27:27]:
That’s important for a lot of people to hear.

Laurie Watson [00:27:29]:
Yeah.

George Faller [00:27:29]:
So a lot of people just simply limit sex to the orgasm. And it’s so much more than that.

Laurie Watson [00:27:34]:
Yeah.

George Faller [00:27:35]:
All right.

Laurie Watson [00:27:36]:
Okay.

George Faller [00:27:36]:
What’s L. LAugHter again, so many couples are so serious, but for a lot of partners, this is the gas pedal. They want to relax. They want to be playful. They want to be goofy. The bedroom is supposed to be the adult playground. Like, this is where we’re supposed to be different and take on different roles. Like fool around.

George Faller [00:27:56]:
Like, I think this is super important for a lot of couples, but they don’t talk about it. And a lot of times, one person who’s trying to be goofy, it becomes a break for the other partner. Like, I want. I want to. I want an adult partner who’s confident. I don’t want a little kid, like. So it’s this laughter and this joking stuff that for the other person, it doesn’t feel so good. It feels awkward.

George Faller [00:28:19]:
It takes them out of the mood. It hits their brakes. So again, just trying to give couples a space to talk about it. Right. I mean, the goal is for both to have more fun.

Laurie Watson [00:28:29]:
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And we know laughter and. And that kind of sharing is the hallmark of secure sexuality. When you can be playful and you can let down and you know, and. But we do see the break. Right. Sometimes people feel like, like you said, their humor is different. One person wants sophisticated innuendo, and the other one is being junior high and not so funny.

Laurie Watson [00:28:53]:
It kills it. But hopefully, as a goal, feeling that sense of being relaxed, being able to laugh. And you gotta laugh at sex. I mean. Cause it’s. Sometimes it’s crazy, and sometimes it’s just crazy things happen. Your body makes noises. You gotta have a sense of humor if you’re gonna have sex.

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George Faller [00:30:11]:
Again, so important, we know almost 15%, 20% of sexual encounters end badly. Something doesn’t work. You’ve got to have some grace and some laughter to kind of forgive and let things go. Otherwise that pressure keeps mounting. So I think it’s a really underestimated trait in the bedroom. LAUGHTER all right, Laurie, here we are kissing. The last one.

Laurie Watson [00:30:33]:
Kissing.

George Faller [00:30:34]:
A lot of people kissing, kissing. Come on, give me a little kissing, right? That’s. Listen, it could be a little. Little pecking, little deep kisses. It could be the whole gamut. But for some people, they’re not going to get the first base without this, right? That it’s. It’s how they turn on. It’s how they feel connected.

George Faller [00:30:51]:
It’s. They want to kiss with their eyes open. They want deep tongue, they want little tongues. They want nibbles on the ear. I mean, this is it. This is like how they feel, how they’re going to get turned on, how they feel intimate, how they feel romantic. It’s a big gas pedal and not surprising for a lot of people. This is also the break.

George Faller [00:31:10]:
I don’t like the way you kiss. I don’t like your breath. I don’t like too wet, too dry, too dry. And I don’t want to say that hurt your feelings. So I just kind of roll over and do something. And it’s like that. I missed this opportunity to kind of use this tool that could be really beautiful because I get this break that comes on around the kissing.

Laurie Watson [00:31:32]:
Yeah. And, George, I do think, as a sex therapist, I’ve worked with lots of couples who have kissing discrepancies. And it is a really hard sex act to get right. I think this is harder to me than teaching people how to have oral sex. It’s like, because it’s a dance, you know, when you’re kissing somebody, they have to be responsive. It’s like, you know, so it is. It is really, I think, very, very tough to teach people and to get them to communicate exactly what they like when they’re kissing. I think it’s really hard.

Laurie Watson [00:32:05]:
So, you know, and they’ve probably had.

George Faller [00:32:08]:
Better kissing elsewhere where it was easier and the other person was more their style. So there was a. There was a fit and a clicking. So again, if your body knows kissing, that worked really well. And now here you are and it’s not working so well. You can feel how frustrating that becomes.

Laurie Watson [00:32:24]:
It can be very frustrating.

George Faller [00:32:27]:
So there you have it. The best sex talk. It’s just a way of us putting together all the different things couples come to us with that they don’t know how to bring up or talk about. And again, if you can just take our questionnaire on Instagram or on our website, and it’s just going to give you this, you know, a system for just kind of having all these kind of questions and taking some time to answer them and share with your partner. And before you know it, you are going to be surprised. You are definitely going to identify some areas that are gas pedals that you might not have known or low scores that we can definitely find ways to increase it. All these, like Laurie said, these breaks, which are so often the real culprit behind bad sex or lack of desire, right? Are these breaks when we can start reducing these breaks, really good things happen. Remember, the goal is high gas pedals, low breaks.

Laurie Watson [00:33:20]:
So join us again on Instagram Foreplay sex therapy podcast and our website to fourplaysextherapy.com. You can find us and download this worksheet, and we are giving it to you as a gift. We would love to have you have this when you do this talk.

George Faller [00:33:39]:
And, I mean, it’s exciting. Laurie and I are writing a book now that’s going to include the best sex talk with a lot more around sexual cycles and emotional cycles. But really, you know, we appreciate the feedback of our listeners. We appreciate the support of our patrons, because, again, this is the encouragement and the structure that kind of, we’re building that’s really trying to kind of get this, this word out there, this message out there. What makes for really good, great love and what are the things that get in a way that can be fixed as long as we can find a way of talking about it.

Laurie Watson [00:34:16]:
Exactly. And we would be honored if you join with us and partner with us if you have means and you’re financially able. Thank you so much. We would appreciate your patronage because this takes a lot of time, takes a lot of effort, and we have a big vision of reaching the world and helping people have healthy sex and healthy relationships. And, you know, being healthy couples, we feel like that’s like a real bedrock in terms of the health of the world. So thank you for the patrons that we do have. We so appreciate you. Some of you have been with us for years and years.

Laurie Watson [00:34:49]:
And thanks so much.

George Faller [00:34:51]:
You got your homework assignment, best sex talk. Good luck.

Laurie Watson [00:34:57]:
Thanks for listening.

George Faller [00:34:59]:
Keep it hot, baby.

Laurie Watson [00:35:00]:
Okay, so tell us about your cutting edge training that you’re doing on success and vulnerability.

George Faller [00:35:06]:
Laurie we just keep pushing it. Coming up with a new module on the playbook of a pursuer, playbook of a witcher, really practical moment by moment moves of what a therapist can use. We’re so focused on what’s happening in session enough. There’s talk about theories and these global things I think most therapists are looking for. What do I do in this moment? Give me a tool, George. So that’s what we’re trying to do.

Laurie Watson [00:35:32]:
That’s awesome. I am so glad you guys are doing this work. I think it helps us be organized to see you do it. You do demos, you do explanations, teaching. It really is interactive, and I think that so many trainings that we sit through don’t give us an opportunity for that. So what you’re doing is really important.

George Faller [00:35:52]:
No, we try to emphasize the teach it, show it, do it model of learning. You need to have some ideas, so we try to teach those, and then we try to show what it looks like implementing those ideas. But most importantly, you now got to practice it. That’s how they become yours, and that’s what we want our listeners and watchers to do and become their own moves.

Laurie Watson [00:36:10]:
Find George and his [email protected] dot call.

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